FACES FROM THE WALL

OREGON and VIETNAM WAR

MARCH 1970

    GEORGE GEOFFREY KARR
Birth 02MAR47 Rank SP4 Date of Death 03MAR70
P. of birth Nyack NY Service Army (Draft) Place Thua Thien S. Vietnam
Town of
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Tigard Unit 101st Abn Div HHB 4th Bn 77th Arty Death Code Non Hostile, Died Other; Air Loss, Crash - Land Helicopter - NonCrew
Hometown   service # 544525921 Panel 13WEST - 78 
Married Single  In Service   Medals  
Tour Date 29JUL69  Comment   Cemetery  National Memorial Cemetery of the Pacific Honolulu HI
George Karr
      Memorial services for George Geoffrey Karr, 23, Tigard, will be held Saturday, 21 Mar (1970) at 2 p.m. at the Tigard United Methodist church. Interment was in National Cemetery of the Pacific, Honolulu HI;
      Mr. Karr died 3 Mar (1970) in a plane crash in Vietnam. He was serving with the US Army at the time.
      He was born in Nyack NY. A graduate of Tigard High School, he had completed his junior year in engineering at Portland State University when he was drafted.
      He was a Cub Scout Webelo leader, a ski enthusiast and an ardent hunter and fisherman.
      Surviving are his parents, Mr. and Mrs. George R. Karr, 14280 SW 100th Ave., Tigard; sister, Elisabeth Karr, Portland, brothers, Jonathan, Christopher, David and Stephen, all of Tigard; grandmother, Mrs. George I. Karr, Philadelphia PA; grandfather, George E. Egge, Punta Gorda FL.
      The family suggests remembrances be sent either to Mt. Hood Ski Patrol, Government Camp or to national Wildlife Federation, 1412 16th St., Washington D.C. (Tigard Times, Tigard OR, 19 Mar 1970)

    BRIAN LYLE WILSON

Birth 12APR50 Rank CPL Date of Death 04MAR70
P. of birth   Service Army (Draft) Place Quang Ngai S. Vietnam
Town of
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Amity Unit 11th LIB A Co 4th Bn 21st Inf Death Code Hostile, Died; Other Explosive Devices Ground Casualty
Hometown   service # 540584907 Panel 13WEST - 83 
Married Single  In Service   Medals Purple Heart 
Tour Date 08JAN70  Comment   Cemetery  

    JAMES RAY MUTH

Birth 19OCT49 Rank PFC Date of Death 07MAR70
P. of birth North Bend Service Army (Draft) Place Binh Duong S. Vietnam
Town of
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Coos Bay Unit 25th Inf Div A Co 2nd Bn 22nd Inf Death Code Hostile, Died; Other Explosive Devices Ground Casualty
Hometown   service # 544585591 Panel 13WEST - 94 
Married Single  In Service   Medals Purple Heart 
Tour Date 23DEC69  Comment   Cemetery  
James Ray Muth
      Services will be announced from the North Bend chapel of Campbell-Watkins Funeral Homes for Private First Class James Ray Muth, 20, son of Mrs. Verna Muth of Coos Bay who was killed in action in Vietnam 7 Mar (1970). Born 19 Oct 1949 in North Bend, the young man was an infantryman with the U.S. Army.
      In addition to his mother he is survived by a half-brother, Charles Monroe; half-sisters, Beverly Perkins, Lola Wildman, all of Coos Bay, and Maxine Quemada, Montebello CA; sisters, Linda Muth and Kathy Lohrke, Coos Bay; grandparents, Raymond Muth, Coos Bay and Mr. and Mrs. Francis Tedford, Benton AR. (The World, Coos Bay, Wednesday, 11 Mar 1970)

    GEORGE ARTHUR BAMFORD

Birth 16AUG47 Rank SP4 Date of Death 09MAR70
P. of birth   Service Army Place Phuoc Long S. Vietnam
Town of
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Lebanon Unit 1st Cav Div C Co 228th Sup Hel Bn Death Code Non Hostile, Died Other; Air Loss, Crash - Land Helicopter - Crew
Hometown   service # 059380533 Panel 13WEST - 99 
Married Single  In Service   Medals  
Tour Date 04JAN70  Comment   Cemetery  

    STEVEN LLOYD PETERS

Birth 12DEC47 Rank SP4 Date of Death 10MAR70
P. of birth Klamath Fall Service Army (Draft) Place Thua Thien S. Vietnam
Town of
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Klamath Falls Unit 101st Abn Div HHC 426th S & S Bn Death Code Non Hostile, Died Illness, Disease; Accidental Self Destruction Ground Casualty
Hometown   service # 540580350 Panel 13WEST - 105 
Married Married  In Service   Medals  
Tour Date 29MAR69  Comment   Cemetery  
KF Man Dies In Vietnam
      Mrs. Steven L. Peters received word Friday of the death of her husband, Spec. 4 Steven Lloyd Peters, Tuesday in Vietnam, where he was serving with the 101st Airborne Division. No further details are known at this time.
      Specialist Peters was born 18 Dec 1947 in Klamath Falls. He was a 1966 graduate of Henley High School and had attended Oregon Technical Institute before entering the service a year-and-a-half ago. He had been in Vietnam one year this month.
      He was a member of the Screaming Eagles Club of 101st Airborne Division and Shasta Way Christian Church.
      In addition to his widow, Georjan, who he married 6 Jul 1968, he is survived by his parents, Mr. and Mrs. Fred A. Peters, and sisters, Shirley Collins, Wanda Peters, Nancy Peters and Jacquie Peters, all of this city; brother, Roger Keno; grandmother, Mrs. Hattie E. Berry, Greenacres WA.
      Funeral services will be announced at a later date by O'Hair's Funeral Chapel.
(Herald and News, Klamath Falls OR, Sunday, 15 Mar 1970)

    CALVIN WILLIAM KOLB

Birth 29MAY49 Rank SSG Date of Death 14MAR70
P. of birth   Service Army (Draft) Place Binh Duong S. Vietnam
Town of
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Hubbard Unit 1st Inf Div 1st Sqdr 4th Cav Death Code Hostile, Died; Other Causes Ground Casualty
Hometown   service # 544581147 Panel 13WEST - 126 
Married Single  In Service   Medals Purple Heart 
Tour Date 15JUL69  Comment   Cemetery  

    LANE WAYNE WISEMAN

Birth 21DEC49 Rank PFC Date of Death 14MAR70
P. of birth   Service Army (Draft) Place Quang Ngai S. Vietnam
Town of
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Roseburg Unit 101st Abn Div A Co 1st Bn 506th Inf Death Code Hostile, Died; Unknown, Not Reported Ground Casualty
Hometown   service # 946000118 Panel 13WEST - 129 
Married Married  In Service   Medals Purple Heart 
Tour Date 06FEB70  Comment   Cemetery  

    ROBERT NOEL THOMPSON

Birth 10MAR50 Rank PFC Date of Death 20MAR70
P. of birth   Service Army (Draft) Place Thua Thien S. Vietnam
Town of
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MOUNT VERNON Unit 101st Abn Div B Co 326th Eng Bn Death Code Hostile, Died; Multiple Fragmentation Wounds Ground Casualty
Hometown   service # 519589324 Panel 12WEST - 27 
Married Single  In Service   Medals Purple Heart 
Tour Date 11FEB70  Comment   Cemetery  

    GORDON LEE ZIMMERLE

Birth 06JUN48 Rank SGT Date of Death 23MAR70
P. of birth   Service Army Place Long Khanh S. Vietnam
Town of
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SEASIDE Unit 199th LIB E Co 5th Bn 12th Inf Death Code Non Hostile, Died Illness, Disease; Other Accident Ground Casualty
Hometown   service # 543540088  Panel 12WEST - 35 
Married Single  In Service   Medals  
Tour Date 20JAN70  Comment   Cemetery  

    RICHARD GENE ELZINGA

Birth 13AUG42 Rank MAJ Date of Event 26MAR70
P. of birth   Service Air Force (Reserve) Place LZ Laos
Town of
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Shedd Unit   Death Code Hostile, Died Missing; Air Loss, Crash - Land Fixed Wing - Crew
Hometown   service # 563545526 Panel 12WEST - 45
Married Single Declared Dead 30JUN78 Medals Purple Heart 
MIA BNR Comment Hit My Smoke Cemetery  

Honoring the MIAs
Don Bishoff
    This Afternoon in a section of Portland's Washington Park set aside as a "living memorial" to Vietnam veterans, 25 families will gather for a brief ceremony. It will be a recognition that, for them, the Vietnam War is not quite over.
    They are relatives of Americans still officially unaccounted for in the long Southeast Asian conflict.
    Sen. Mark Hatfield will present each family with a special bronze commemorative medal. The medals were authorized by Congress last year for the 2,489 Americans listed as either MIA (Missing in Action) or KIA BNR (Killed in Action, Body Not Recovered).
    There are 46 Oregonians on that list. Those families not attending today's ceremony will received medals in other states or later from Hatfield.
    Six of the 46 have some connection with Lane County or the surrounding area. There may be others, but even official lists have incomplete information. The six listed by Hatfield's office or by the Oregon coordinator of the National League of Families of American Prisoners and Missing in Southeast Asia, are:
    Navy Lt. Meril O. "Skip" McCoy Jr. - The son of Mr. and Mrs. Meril McCoy Sr. of Cottage Grove and a Cottage Grove High School graduate, he was piloting a mail plane that crashed into the sea after taking off from the carrier USS Ranger in 1970.
    Air Force Maj. Theodore J. Shorack Jr. - The husband of Elva Shorack and son of Marcella Shorack, both of Eugene, and a graduate of Elmira High School, he was piloting a plane involved in a collision with another plane while on a rescue mission over North Vietnam in 1966. One parachute was seen after the collision, but no trace was ever found of either pilot.
    Army Staff Sgt. William W. W. Stubbs - The son of Lily Hill Stubbs of Eugene, he has been missing since the South Vietnamese army patrol he was with was attacked by a Viet Cong unit in 1969. He was hit at close range by machine gun fire and grenades and appeared dead, but his body was never recovered.
    Air Force Lt. Col. Edward B. Silver - The husband of Donna Silver of Corvallis and a graduate of Junction City High School, he was piloting an F-4 Phantom jet that exploded while on a mission in 1968.
    Air Force Maj. Richard G. Elzinga - The son of Rev. and Mrs. Richard Elzinga, formerly of Shedd, now of Pasadena CA, he was a military attache to the U.S. Embassy in Laos whose plane disappeared in a flight over the Plain of Jars in 1970.
    Air Force Lt. Col. William Richard Andrews - His home town is listed as Eugene, but no other information was available.
    MOST OF THE FAMILIES of these men know they are dead. But for some there is a lingering uncertainty. For all, there is an extra emptiness.
    "I wish that I could at least get Bill's bones back," said Lily Hill Stubbs. "I have no grave, nothing but his memory, that I can look to as a memorial."
    The McCoys have dealt with that in their own way. "His stone is up there in our lot in Sunset Hills Memorial Gardens in Eugene, " said Rayme McCoy.
    Both Stubbs' mother and Shorack's wife say they have come to accept the deaths of their men. "I feel like he is with God," said Elva Shorack. "However, when the POWs were returned in '73, you know, I just sat there glued to the TV, looking at each one. You always wonder when you don't have any remains."
    The Elzingas, whose don't plane was never found in Laos, still cling to some hope. "Three years after his plane disappeared, a Pathet Lao agent was captured and he had on him three of our son's traveler's checks, imperfectly good condition," said LaMila Jean Elzinga. "As long as they know where he was and that his traveler's checks were not burned, I know that he was alive that day (the plane disappeared). But how long could he have survived? . . . You don't have peace of mind. The not knowing is the worst."
    Richard Durham, a Hatfield volunteer coordinating today's medal ceremony, said the Defense Department has received "over 500 first-hand 'live' sightings" of Americans since the war's end. Many have been discounted or disproved, but "about 150 cases are under investigation currently," he said.
    THE VIETNAMESE GOVERNMENT denies that any prisoners remain there. Strained diplomatic relations with Laos and lack of any relations with Cambodia have complicated efforts to trace MIAs in those countries, Durham said.
    In a radio talk last year, President Reagan said: "I reaffirm by dedication to obtaining the fullest possible accounting for our Americans missing in Southeast Asia. . . We must not rest until we know their fate."
    One who doesn't believe that the government has done enough to determine that fate is Robert Brett of Klamath Falls, state coordinator for the league of families. His son, Capt. Robert Brett Jr., has been missing since being shot down over North Vietnam in 1972.
    "Rather than have Congress create a medal for these men, I would appreciate much more concrete action on the diplomatic and economic front to gain a resolution to this tragedy." Brett said. "It's a tragedy when a country that prides itself on the rights of the individual and the dignity of man will send men off to war and then turn its back on them."
    However, Mrs. Shorack said of the medal presentation: "I think it's letting people know that this isn't resolved."
    And on the face of medal themselves are the words: "You are not forgotten." (The Register-Guard, Eugene OR, Friday, 17 August 1984)
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